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	<title>Comments on: The Latest Fad</title>
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	<description>n. the principle of good order "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>by: Grumpy Old Man</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2008/01/06/the-latest-fad/#comment-8436</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Both Huckabee and Obama represent, among other things, the Revolt of the Voting Cattle--evangelicals on the GOP side, blacks on the Dem side. After years of being taken for granted and fed with scraps from the political table, these groups are being offered someone who is at least to some extent one of their own.

Hill and Bill and George Will are all a-twitter. I'm no acolyte of either, personable though each is, but it's fun to watch the Clintonistas and the country-club/WSJ GOP up against it.

The Republic is still foundering, but it could be an amusing year, what with the peasants besieging the manor house with their torches and pitchforks.</description>
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<p>Hill and Bill and George Will are all a-twitter. I&#8217;m no acolyte of either, personable though each is, but it&#8217;s fun to watch the Clintonistas and the country-club/WSJ GOP up against it.</p>
<p>The Republic is still foundering, but it could be an amusing year, what with the peasants besieging the manor house with their torches and pitchforks.
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		<title>by: Daniel Larison</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2008/01/06/the-latest-fad/#comment-8425</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mind you, I have been generally far more sympathetic to Huckabee's supporters than most, understanding as I do their frustration with the GOP establishment, but perhaps I have not been clear enough in what I have been trying to say.  If Huckabee were diverging from the "traditional party line" on economics and trade, I would be intrigued and possibly more open to what he was trying to do.  My critique of the superficial nature of his campaign is that he makes vague references to "fair trade" but has nothing else to say about this.  If he thinks NAFTA was a good idea, as he claims, he is the one spouting the "traditional party line."  

I was saying that the establishment GOP was incorrectly perceiving Huckabee's "populism" as a genuine revolt against their economic policy ideas, when in fact his "populism" is a superficial symbolic appeal akin to Fred Thompson's use of a pickup trick.  If that reflects confusion, so be it, but I think the point is clear: Huckabee's "populism" is fake, like Thompson's, but it is being interpreted wrongly as a real challenge to the establishment's power.  If you think the Fair Tax empowers the common man and weakens the central government, I congratulate you on your optimism.  I agree that irrationality characterises the support for the other candidates--that was the point of the post.  Of the non-Ron Paul candidates who stand a chance of being nominated, I am least opposed to Huckabee.  Perhaps that will straighten things out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind you, I have been generally far more sympathetic to Huckabee&#8217;s supporters than most, understanding as I do their frustration with the GOP establishment, but perhaps I have not been clear enough in what I have been trying to say.  If Huckabee were diverging from the &#8220;traditional party line&#8221; on economics and trade, I would be intrigued and possibly more open to what he was trying to do.  My critique of the superficial nature of his campaign is that he makes vague references to &#8220;fair trade&#8221; but has nothing else to say about this.  If he thinks NAFTA was a good idea, as he claims, he is the one spouting the &#8220;traditional party line.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I was saying that the establishment GOP was incorrectly perceiving Huckabee&#8217;s &#8220;populism&#8221; as a genuine revolt against their economic policy ideas, when in fact his &#8220;populism&#8221; is a superficial symbolic appeal akin to Fred Thompson&#8217;s use of a pickup trick.  If that reflects confusion, so be it, but I think the point is clear: Huckabee&#8217;s &#8220;populism&#8221; is fake, like Thompson&#8217;s, but it is being interpreted wrongly as a real challenge to the establishment&#8217;s power.  If you think the Fair Tax empowers the common man and weakens the central government, I congratulate you on your optimism.  I agree that irrationality characterises the support for the other candidates&#8211;that was the point of the post.  Of the non-Ron Paul candidates who stand a chance of being nominated, I am least opposed to Huckabee.  Perhaps that will straighten things out.
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		<title>by: Ian</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2008/01/06/the-latest-fad/#comment-8424</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It seems as though you're putting distance between Huckabee and "substance, policy and reason..." But, this could be said, by anyone, about any of the candidates - Republican or Democrat. And, the means by which those criteria are evaluated would be biased, at the get go, by whether the "observer" is disposed to see wisdom as residing with "big government," or alternatively with "We, the People."

Even the term, "observers," - as used by the observers, themselves - is usually code for "chattering class," or those who by family or fortune have more time on their hands which they can call their own. In fewer cases (like my own), the time is a direct result of sacrificing hours which could otherwise be employed toward personal gain.

The term "superficial," as used in your commentary seems to refer to anyone who dares to vary from the traditional party line. One moment you're saying that Huckabee's "economics" populism is being taken seriously, yet then you say it's as real as someother candidate's of "driving around in a pickup truck"?

How confused are YOU?!

What sets Huckabee apart is that he's a Washington outsider with a TRULY populist message. And it's because the "economics" of Washington-as-usual (tax code modifications by lobbyist/money; congressional spending without responsibility) has not only failed, but are taking us into recession and potentially dire currency failure!

Huckabee is the ONLY candidate who supports enactment of a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://snipr.com/nextrung" rel="nofollow"&gt;consumption tax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, eliminating a major part of the problem - the income tax system that has been used more for political gain, than for healthful &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://snipr.com/fthuckabeeonirs" rel="nofollow"&gt;fiscal management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. It's a system that sets up, and benefits, a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://snipr.com/romneyoffshore" rel="nofollow"&gt;privileged class&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (of whom Mitt Romney is a member - together with those members of Congress who look forward to a seeking a nice post-Washington life as a lobbyist seeking preferential treatment for their clients under the tax code, among other things).

However, the problem are those who keep talking out of their backsides who are disconnected from the working world of, God forbid, ordinary working people (who - by slur, or implication, are unable to properly care for themselves and their families without some type of government intervenor - precisely how "liberal" politicians like things to be seen to reinforce their guilty-conscience-laden sense of &lt;i&gt;raison d'etre&lt;/i&gt;).

Yes, to such people, a rise of someone like Huckabee who's plain-talking, with non-neurotic, sensible, compelling ideas, ARE "irrational"; but, of course, the reverse is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as though you&#8217;re putting distance between Huckabee and &#8220;substance, policy and reason&#8230;&#8221; But, this could be said, by anyone, about any of the candidates - Republican or Democrat. And, the means by which those criteria are evaluated would be biased, at the get go, by whether the &#8220;observer&#8221; is disposed to see wisdom as residing with &#8220;big government,&#8221; or alternatively with &#8220;We, the People.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even the term, &#8220;observers,&#8221; - as used by the observers, themselves - is usually code for &#8220;chattering class,&#8221; or those who by family or fortune have more time on their hands which they can call their own. In fewer cases (like my own), the time is a direct result of sacrificing hours which could otherwise be employed toward personal gain.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;superficial,&#8221; as used in your commentary seems to refer to anyone who dares to vary from the traditional party line. One moment you&#8217;re saying that Huckabee&#8217;s &#8220;economics&#8221; populism is being taken seriously, yet then you say it&#8217;s as real as someother candidate&#8217;s of &#8220;driving around in a pickup truck&#8221;?</p>
<p>How confused are YOU?!</p>
<p>What sets Huckabee apart is that he&#8217;s a Washington outsider with a TRULY populist message. And it&#8217;s because the &#8220;economics&#8221; of Washington-as-usual (tax code modifications by lobbyist/money; congressional spending without responsibility) has not only failed, but are taking us into recession and potentially dire currency failure!</p>
<p>Huckabee is the ONLY candidate who supports enactment of a <b><a href="http://snipr.com/nextrung" rel="nofollow">consumption tax</a></b>, eliminating a major part of the problem - the income tax system that has been used more for political gain, than for healthful <b><a href="http://snipr.com/fthuckabeeonirs" rel="nofollow">fiscal management</a></b>. It&#8217;s a system that sets up, and benefits, a <b><a href="http://snipr.com/romneyoffshore" rel="nofollow">privileged class</a></b> (of whom Mitt Romney is a member - together with those members of Congress who look forward to a seeking a nice post-Washington life as a lobbyist seeking preferential treatment for their clients under the tax code, among other things).</p>
<p>However, the problem are those who keep talking out of their backsides who are disconnected from the working world of, God forbid, ordinary working people (who - by slur, or implication, are unable to properly care for themselves and their families without some type of government intervenor - precisely how &#8220;liberal&#8221; politicians like things to be seen to reinforce their guilty-conscience-laden sense of <i>raison d&#8217;etre</i>).</p>
<p>Yes, to such people, a rise of someone like Huckabee who&#8217;s plain-talking, with non-neurotic, sensible, compelling ideas, ARE &#8220;irrational&#8221;; but, of course, the reverse is the case.
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		<title>by: James Newland</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2008/01/06/the-latest-fad/#comment-8416</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That whole last paragraph is golden, but the last sentence is particularly cogent. Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole last paragraph is golden, but the last sentence is particularly cogent. Well done!
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