Comments on: Preaching To The Preacher http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/ n. the principle of good order "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:19:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Zarathustra http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8371 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:52:19 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8371 It's difficult to imagine just how complete one's disconnect from anything vaguely resembling reality would have to be to believe that support for strong enforcement of immigration laws is a near "fatal" error for someone running for the Republican nomination for President. Then again, Gerson did come from the Bush Administration, so I suppose it really shouldn't be all that surprising that his feet are firmly planted on Candy Cane Lane. The most risible line, though, is that pro-enforcement politics "should be covered with brown paper, kept under the counter and hidden from children." No Mikey, the person who should cover himself with brown paper and hidden under the counter is your former boss, who believes that he can unilaterally "decide" not to enforce the laws he doesn't want enforced. It’s difficult to imagine just how complete one’s disconnect from anything vaguely resembling reality would have to be to believe that support for strong enforcement of immigration laws is a near “fatal” error for someone running for the Republican nomination for President. Then again, Gerson did come from the Bush Administration, so I suppose it really shouldn’t be all that surprising that his feet are firmly planted on Candy Cane Lane.

The most risible line, though, is that pro-enforcement politics “should be covered with brown paper, kept under the counter and hidden from children.” No Mikey, the person who should cover himself with brown paper and hidden under the counter is your former boss, who believes that he can unilaterally “decide” not to enforce the laws he doesn’t want enforced.

]]> by: expertlaw http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8365 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:53:15 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8365 Whether or not moral issues attach - whatever his motivation - the larger theme I see in your posts about Huckabee is that he has a propensity to support to some really bad ideas. I can't argue with that, and the Dumond case can be viewed as a cautionary tale about happens when Huckabee has both a bad idea and the power to advance it. Whether or not moral issues attach - whatever his motivation - the larger theme I see in your posts about Huckabee is that he has a propensity to support to some really bad ideas. I can’t argue with that, and the Dumond case can be viewed as a cautionary tale about happens when Huckabee has both a bad idea and the power to advance it.

]]> by: Daniel Larison http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8363 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:09:03 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8363 Okay, those are fair points. Let me try that again. Gerson takes it as more or self-evident that the Minutemen represent something unbelievably foul and "toxic," and he chooses association with this group as a moral blunder "of the first order" while ignoring the Dumond case, where it really isn't just a case of Huckabee's overactive desire to be merciful. If we want to talk about Huckabee's blunders, moral and otherwise, it seems to me that we would start there and work our way down to a Jim Gilchrist endorsement. Moral blunders "of the first order" are probably much more serious than this, even if you accepted Gerson's assumption that the Minutemen were horrible. Okay, those are fair points. Let me try that again. Gerson takes it as more or self-evident that the Minutemen represent something unbelievably foul and “toxic,” and he chooses association with this group as a moral blunder “of the first order” while ignoring the Dumond case, where it really isn’t just a case of Huckabee’s overactive desire to be merciful. If we want to talk about Huckabee’s blunders, moral and otherwise, it seems to me that we would start there and work our way down to a Jim Gilchrist endorsement. Moral blunders “of the first order” are probably much more serious than this, even if you accepted Gerson’s assumption that the Minutemen were horrible.

]]> by: expertlaw http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8355 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:21:46 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/12/14/preaching-to-the-preacher/#comment-8355 Immigration issues "rank right up there" for some religions, including the Catholic Church. I'm not aware of any church which devotes any appreciable resources to opposing executive clemency, or condemning governors who are too forgiving of inmates (no matter how poor their judgment). Immigration issues “rank right up there” for some religions, including the Catholic Church.

I’m not aware of any church which devotes any appreciable resources to opposing executive clemency, or condemning governors who are too forgiving of inmates (no matter how poor their judgment).

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