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		<title>by: levotb1</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/11/21/the-trouble-with-huckabee/#comment-8242</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Huckabee would be a disaster for the GOP which has already lost hundreds of thousands of conservatives to either The Constitution Party or (like me) to no party in particular. If the GOP thinks that either Huckabee or Ghouliani are "uniters" and can bring back the conservatives it has lost and WILL LOSE if either man is nominated, they bring on a devastating experience called President Hillary or President Obama, because many conservatives will either vote elsewhere or simply stay home. The Dems are split only between two liberals--the GOP is torn every which way with the MNM still pulling for the three liberals McCain, Ghouliani and Huckabee. Why do I call Huckabee "a liberal"? He raised taxes on just about everything in Arkansas, killing jobs and hurting the poor and middle class, such as it was. He made a deal with Tyson for their financial backing--he layed off going after them for their lawbreaking regarding their hiring thousands of illegal aliens. He sold out to Mexico and did business with Mexico, something that was and is against the law in Arkansas. Here is some evidence:

Below are but a few of the links from a website: ARKANSAS FREEDOM DOTCOM http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/05/15/radio-ad-campaign-for-may-against-amnesty.aspx owned and maintained by Ft. Smith attorney Joey McCutchen and regarding Mike Huckabee's history on illegal immigration. 

Arkids 1st, a welfare program formulated by Gov. Huckabee, advertised as subsidizing healthcare for gainfully employed Arkansas' Citizens. In fact, is a thinly veiled program conceived to give healthcare to illegal Mexicans. The theft occurred concomitantly with another Huckabee criminal act, (Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution) installing a Mexican Consulate in Little Rock, a clearinghouse for illegals. Enter Gov. Beebe: Calling for reauthorization of the SCHIP (prenatal care for illegals), Arkids 1st, and the ARHealthnet programs:
 
http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/07/30/huckabeebeebe-welfare-state.aspx 

The idea of establishing a Mexican consulate in Arkansas was first discussed by former Gov. Mike Huckabee after his trip to Mexico City in 2003.

Last year, Huckabee struck a deal with Mexican officials to house the consular office in a state agency office for $1 a year while the consulate facilities were being refurbished. At the time, some lawmakers complained the governor made the deal without notifying the Legislature and therefore broke the law:
 
http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/04/23/illegal-mexican-consulate-opening-this-week.aspx
 
U.S CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 10 - No state shall enter into an agreement with a foreign Power . . . without the consent of Congress. 
Mike Huckabee has also violated Arkansas State Law: Codes ANN 6-65-101, 22-2-114C(i), 22-5-401(b), 22-2-108. 

http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/03/30/huckabee-defies-the-us-constitition.aspx

Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Wednesday the nation is being given a chance to make up for past racism by the way it handles the influx of Hispanics.
In a press release issued, former Governor Mike Huckabee took issue with the Tancredo campaign's characterization of him as a pro-amnesty politician. Unfortunately for the Governor, the facts support the label. 

Fact #1. As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that "would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally."
(Doug Thompson, "Immigration Bill un-Christian...Governor says" Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05) 

Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens.
(Laura Kellams, "Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens" Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005) 

Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported a Bush-backed immigration plan that provides a path to citizenship for some illegal aliens.
(CNN 2008 Election Center, http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/... 

Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the "No Amnesty Pledge".
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This is just a portion of the information on Huckabee as Governor of Arkansas. Huckabee is an Open Borders, pro-amnesty guy. On illegal immigration ALONE, Huckabee is a non-starter and is totally unacceptable as a Presidential candidate or as a Vice Presidential candidate. Perhaps he's worthy of an ambassadorship to the Vatican, buit not much else. The MNM hasn't come out with these and other facts yet on Huckabee. Watch his poll numbers drop as they are revealed. 

For the record, Ron Paul voted for THREE amnesties for illegal aliens, and this is a major fact that the MNM haven't mentioned about his past. He also believes in legalizing illicit drugs. These are two reasons why conservatives are not flocking to him. He has no chance in the GOP and should be running as the nominee of either The Libertarian Party or The Constitution Party which has been wooing him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabee would be a disaster for the GOP which has already lost hundreds of thousands of conservatives to either The Constitution Party or (like me) to no party in particular. If the GOP thinks that either Huckabee or Ghouliani are &#8220;uniters&#8221; and can bring back the conservatives it has lost and WILL LOSE if either man is nominated, they bring on a devastating experience called President Hillary or President Obama, because many conservatives will either vote elsewhere or simply stay home. The Dems are split only between two liberals&#8211;the GOP is torn every which way with the MNM still pulling for the three liberals McCain, Ghouliani and Huckabee. Why do I call Huckabee &#8220;a liberal&#8221;? He raised taxes on just about everything in Arkansas, killing jobs and hurting the poor and middle class, such as it was. He made a deal with Tyson for their financial backing&#8211;he layed off going after them for their lawbreaking regarding their hiring thousands of illegal aliens. He sold out to Mexico and did business with Mexico, something that was and is against the law in Arkansas. Here is some evidence:</p>
<p>Below are but a few of the links from a website: ARKANSAS FREEDOM DOTCOM <a href='http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/05/15/radio-ad-campaign-for-may-against-amnesty.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/05/15/radio-ad-campaign-for-may-against-amnesty.aspx</a> owned and maintained by Ft. Smith attorney Joey McCutchen and regarding Mike Huckabee&#8217;s history on illegal immigration. </p>
<p>Arkids 1st, a welfare program formulated by Gov. Huckabee, advertised as subsidizing healthcare for gainfully employed Arkansas&#8217; Citizens. In fact, is a thinly veiled program conceived to give healthcare to illegal Mexicans. The theft occurred concomitantly with another Huckabee criminal act, (Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution) installing a Mexican Consulate in Little Rock, a clearinghouse for illegals. Enter Gov. Beebe: Calling for reauthorization of the SCHIP (prenatal care for illegals), Arkids 1st, and the ARHealthnet programs:</p>
<p><a href='http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/07/30/huckabeebeebe-welfare-state.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/07/30/huckabeebeebe-welfare-state.aspx</a> </p>
<p>The idea of establishing a Mexican consulate in Arkansas was first discussed by former Gov. Mike Huckabee after his trip to Mexico City in 2003.</p>
<p>Last year, Huckabee struck a deal with Mexican officials to house the consular office in a state agency office for $1 a year while the consulate facilities were being refurbished. At the time, some lawmakers complained the governor made the deal without notifying the Legislature and therefore broke the law:</p>
<p><a href='http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/04/23/illegal-mexican-consulate-opening-this-week.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/04/23/illegal-mexican-consulate-opening-this-week.aspx</a></p>
<p>U.S CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 10 - No state shall enter into an agreement with a foreign Power . . . without the consent of Congress.<br />
Mike Huckabee has also violated Arkansas State Law: Codes ANN 6-65-101, 22-2-114C(i), 22-5-401(b), 22-2-108. </p>
<p><a href='http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/03/30/huckabee-defies-the-us-constitition.aspx' rel='nofollow'>http://arkansasfreedom.com/2007/03/30/huckabee-defies-the-us-constitition.aspx</a></p>
<p>Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Wednesday the nation is being given a chance to make up for past racism by the way it handles the influx of Hispanics.<br />
In a press release issued, former Governor Mike Huckabee took issue with the Tancredo campaign&#8217;s characterization of him as a pro-amnesty politician. Unfortunately for the Governor, the facts support the label. </p>
<p>Fact #1. As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that &#8220;would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally.&#8221;<br />
(Doug Thompson, &#8220;Immigration Bill un-Christian&#8230;Governor says&#8221; Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05) </p>
<p>Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens.<br />
(Laura Kellams, &#8220;Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens&#8221; Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005) </p>
<p>Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported a Bush-backed immigration plan that provides a path to citizenship for some illegal aliens.<br />
(CNN 2008 Election Center, <a href='http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/&#8230;' rel='nofollow'>http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the &#8220;No Amnesty Pledge&#8221;.<br />
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This is just a portion of the information on Huckabee as Governor of Arkansas. Huckabee is an Open Borders, pro-amnesty guy. On illegal immigration ALONE, Huckabee is a non-starter and is totally unacceptable as a Presidential candidate or as a Vice Presidential candidate. Perhaps he&#8217;s worthy of an ambassadorship to the Vatican, buit not much else. The MNM hasn&#8217;t come out with these and other facts yet on Huckabee. Watch his poll numbers drop as they are revealed. </p>
<p>For the record, Ron Paul voted for THREE amnesties for illegal aliens, and this is a major fact that the MNM haven&#8217;t mentioned about his past. He also believes in legalizing illicit drugs. These are two reasons why conservatives are not flocking to him. He has no chance in the GOP and should be running as the nominee of either The Libertarian Party or The Constitution Party which has been wooing him.
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		<title>by: tedschan</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/11/21/the-trouble-with-huckabee/#comment-8163</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;because his nomination would be evidence of the GOP’s cave in to libertarianism.&lt;/i&gt;

Which GOP? The powers that be within the Party? If anything, his nomination would happen despite their efforts to resist it. As for those who would be voting for him in the primaries and so on... many would vote for him because they happen to agree with him on this point or that, not because he's a "libertarian."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>because his nomination would be evidence of the GOP’s cave in to libertarianism.</i></p>
<p>Which GOP? The powers that be within the Party? If anything, his nomination would happen despite their efforts to resist it. As for those who would be voting for him in the primaries and so on&#8230; many would vote for him because they happen to agree with him on this point or that, not because he&#8217;s a &#8220;libertarian.&#8221;
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		<title>by: p.lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/11/21/the-trouble-with-huckabee/#comment-8162</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think that the real problem that the GOP establishment has with both Huckabee and Paul is that neither were given the establishment "seal of approval" -- a prize that comes with the cost of not saying anything that will upset the applecart.  Neither Paul nor Huckabee got into this race expecting the nomination -- Paul (like Tancredo) did it because he wanted to "send a message", Huckabee (like Gilmore) entered solely to be considered a viable candidate in 2012 (or 2016).  

And because neither Paul nor Huckabee expected the nomination, they feel free to be honest -- in stark contrast to Rudy, Mitt and McCain (Thompson's not so much "not honest" as completely lacking in ideas that the has to be dishonest about.)  That independence scares the bejeebus out of the GOP establishment.

But it isn't "honesty" that is driving their popularity -- for Ron Paul, its the fact that he is the only GOP candidate that has rejected the Iraq War, and its underlying assumption of empire.   For Huckabee, its just that he's genuinely a Christian Conservative surrounded by a bunch of people who merely pander to the Christian conservative community.  (If Brownback was still in the race, he'd probably be "the Huckabee".  But Brownback really wanted to run, and win, this year, and he got out when he saw that wasn't happening.  Brownback may have gotten out too soon -- while Thompson was still riding high -- because all of the top four candidates seem to be ready to implode at any moment, and Brownback might have slipped into the nomination as the last sane man standing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the real problem that the GOP establishment has with both Huckabee and Paul is that neither were given the establishment &#8220;seal of approval&#8221; &#8212; a prize that comes with the cost of not saying anything that will upset the applecart.  Neither Paul nor Huckabee got into this race expecting the nomination &#8212; Paul (like Tancredo) did it because he wanted to &#8220;send a message&#8221;, Huckabee (like Gilmore) entered solely to be considered a viable candidate in 2012 (or 2016).  </p>
<p>And because neither Paul nor Huckabee expected the nomination, they feel free to be honest &#8212; in stark contrast to Rudy, Mitt and McCain (Thompson&#8217;s not so much &#8220;not honest&#8221; as completely lacking in ideas that the has to be dishonest about.)  That independence scares the bejeebus out of the GOP establishment.</p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t &#8220;honesty&#8221; that is driving their popularity &#8212; for Ron Paul, its the fact that he is the only GOP candidate that has rejected the Iraq War, and its underlying assumption of empire.   For Huckabee, its just that he&#8217;s genuinely a Christian Conservative surrounded by a bunch of people who merely pander to the Christian conservative community.  (If Brownback was still in the race, he&#8217;d probably be &#8220;the Huckabee&#8221;.  But Brownback really wanted to run, and win, this year, and he got out when he saw that wasn&#8217;t happening.  Brownback may have gotten out too soon &#8212; while Thompson was still riding high &#8212; because all of the top four candidates seem to be ready to implode at any moment, and Brownback might have slipped into the nomination as the last sane man standing.)
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		<title>by: M.Z. Forrest</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/11/21/the-trouble-with-huckabee/#comment-8159</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I suppose I shouldn't be suprised at your disapproval of Huckabee.  I haven't endorsed anyone, but I would prefer him over Ron Paul for the nomination.  Although I would vote for Paul if he were the nominee, I would consider myself closer to the Democratic Party at that point, because his nomination would be evidence of the GOP's cave in to libertarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t be suprised at your disapproval of Huckabee.  I haven&#8217;t endorsed anyone, but I would prefer him over Ron Paul for the nomination.  Although I would vote for Paul if he were the nominee, I would consider myself closer to the Democratic Party at that point, because his nomination would be evidence of the GOP&#8217;s cave in to libertarianism.
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