Ross offers an interesting counterargument on the crucial ”Bourne question”:
Okay, but let’s not take this too far. For instance, I would submit that a film like Braveheart (which, like the Bourne movies, I’m very fond of) qualifies as obviously “anti-English” even though it’s technically only critical of the English government and military, or that the infamous Valley of the Wolves is an anti-American movie even though it mainly concerns itself with the wickedness of certain American soldiers (and evil Jewish-American doctors, of course).
All right, I’ll grant Ross that Braveheart really is anti-English (as is almost every historical movie Mel Gibson has ever directed and almost every historical movie he’s starred in) and Valley of the Wolves really is anti-American, but it seems to me that Braveheart, at least, never gives you any reason to think otherwise and indeed encourages you to despise the English as part of some grand Celtic vendetta for past crimes. It is partly the anti-English-ness of Braveheart and partly the nationalist mythology of it that have so disgusted Alex Massie. There will be no argument over Braveheart’s anti-English quality, since I’m fairly sure that the director would happily agree that it is anti-English, just as The Patriot is very clearly anti-British (despite the moderately positive portrayal of Cornwallis).
Now a very different kind of film made by an Australian would be Breaker Morant, which depicts some of the evils of British policy in the South African War and which has a very clear anti-imperialist message, but which is not anti-British as such. The main character, portrayed mostly favourably, is an English gentleman, and the movie does not show the kommandos in a terribly flattering light. However, because it recognises that the South African War was a “bad cause,” as Woodward’s Morant puts it, it does not vilify the Afrikaners, either. It shows the war to be the cynical and senseless waste that it was. It finds fault with certain individuals and institutions, but it does not condemn the whole of the country.
The two movies Ross mentions were designed to be exactly what Ross says they are, because they are different examples of nationalist filmmaking. Braveheart is anti-English in a classic nationalist myth-making way where the perfidious oppressor nation with no redeeming qualities is ultimately defeated by the heroic champion of independence. Similarly, Alexander Nevsky is intensely anti-German and was made with the intention of vilifying Germans as a group. Valley of the Wolves was designed to be anti-American after a fashion, but mostly by way of providing a villainous adversary to bolster the strong pro-Turkish nationalist themes in it. Your standard nationalist action/war flicks do not allow for a lot of subtlety in the depiction of enemies, which is why virtually every American and British movie made about WWII shows Germans to be a monolithic group of villains.
When someone attempts to break with the standards of the nationalist war flick and introduce complexity and humanity into the depiction of enemies, his film typically does not fare very well with the big action movie crowds. The crowds that turn out for their own versions of Rambo are not interested in making fine distinctions and balanced portrayals, but want very clear-cut affirmations that their people are virtuous and the other guys, whoever they might be, are either nameless, faceless opponents or they are fairly close to evil incarnate.
Ultimatum, on the other hand, insists on conveying the message that Americans are not all like the worst people running Treadstone/Blackbriar, and that even those who have been part of the system and those who have been conditioned and brainwashed into becoming killing machines for the government can change and turn against the corruption of the system. One of the interesting things about the climax of Ultimatum is the complaint that Bourne makes when he said, more or less, ”You said I would be saving American lives.” Implicit in this statement is the notion that, had Treadstone actually been used in some way to help save American lives, Bourne wouldn’t have that much of a problem with it. Besides the larger argument that there is something basically wrong with the methods being employed, the movie might also be seen as saying that the agency’s real error is in using these “assets” for the wrong things (e.g., assassinating Russian politicians rather than, say, targeting terrorists). If a movie like that is what passes for “anti-American” these days, I fear that some of us have become hyper-sensitive.
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August 30th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
mkdelucas
Just how totalitarian is our intellectual culture? This conversation is pathetic and depressing.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
Daniel Larison
Well, this is why I don’t talk about popular culture very often, and when I do I generally dismiss the supposed political messages people find in them. There isn’t much to be gleaned from it. In this case, I thought some basic distinctions needed to be made. I also don’t think there’s anything necessarily totalitarian in talking about the politics of obviously political movies.
Incidentally, no one is compelling anyone to read every post. If it depresses you, go to another post.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
mkdelucas
Should have been more clear. I’m depressed that the question of anti-americanism in the context of a popcorn flick was even raised. I’m glad for the corrective contributions you’ve made.
When I said totalitarian I was referring a bit bombastically* to the habit among contemporary intellectuals to equate the people with the State and their hyper-political approach to the discussion of arts and entertainment. Clearly, there’s nothing wrong with discussing the politics of political movies. What I find pathetic is how eager pundits are, because we see this sort of thing constantly, to resort to totalistic modes of analysis–is this anti-american or not?–that almost always have no relationship to the piece in question.
I’m an American. Is the Bourne Ultimatum anti-me? The question is simply other wordly, and I wonder about an intellectual culture that considers it legitimate and worth pursuing.
*Thinking it over I might say quasi-totalitarian. Or, severe closemindedness.
August 31st, 2007 at 9:24 am
Daniel Larison
Thanks for your second comment and your clarification. I understand your point, and I agree that there is something unsettling about the need to understand “the politics of” virtually everything under the sun. I do think that political life, broadly understood, includes many more things beyond arguments over tax revenue, entitlements and foreign policy. However, the drive to find political messages in literally everything is very different from this and it bothers me. This is why I usually just reject the idea that most pop culture products have meaningful or discernible political content. As consumer goods, they are mostly fluff, and they are designed to be fluff. We invest them with depth and importance at peril of losing all sense of proper perspective.
In this particular case, it’s not even clear to me what it was about the movie that set off the O’Reilly-Kaus reaction that started this business. It seems to me that these people want to have a kind of “nationalist realism” prevail in the arts, and they are upset when movies and the like do not adhere to the standards of “nationalist realism.”
September 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Koz
Obviously, _The Bourne Ultimatum_ is anti-American in a sense, like Kaus explains. Frankly, I’m a little surprised that you think this is a matter of dispute. It’s not intended to be subtle.
But I can forgive the anti-American part. Similar themes have been a staple of Hollywood’s imagination for a long time. What I can’t forgive (and I guess I part company with Ross here) is that the film is in every way indescibably awful, especially the credibility of the storyline. It was a couple of weeks ago that I saw it, but just from memory I recall:
1. Matt Damon is a stretch as an action hero. I might believe it, but I have to see something. All his badassness was asserted hyperbole from other parties. I’ve got to see something.
2. Why was he in Moscow at the beginning of the movie, and how does that tie in with the story?
3. Why were the Moscow cops after him?
4. The fight scene between him and the assassin on the moped might have been the worst I’d ever seen.
5. What does Bourne want, simple revenge, or something more complicated? What does he know after the trips to London, Spain, or Africa that he didn’t know before?
I can’t fathom why you suppose Bourne “introduce[s] complexity and humanity into the depiction of enemies.” This is the same movie we’re talking about right? In terms of the humanity of the characters, this is worse than Steven Segall.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Daniel Larison
Well, I probably won’t persuade you on the first point, but I would just note that the two intelligence higher-ups have a conversation where Straitharn (I believe that’s his name) says: “We need these programs. You’ve seen the raw intel. You know how real the threat is.” Perhaps because it is one of the villains saying this we are meant to discount this, but I think it undercuts the idea proposed by some of the movie’s critics that it is uniformly hostile to the U.S. or oblivious to actual security threats.
I enjoyed the movie for the action flick that it was, but I won’t pretend that it’s any great work of cinema. Technically, it had some merits when it came to cinematography (if you don’t mind the hand-held disorientation effect), but I won’t claim any high marks for writing or acting. I agree that Damon is not really the action figure type, and as I understand it he had some difficulty getting cast for the part because it was very hard to picture him in the role.
I was not intending to refer to Ultimatum, or any of the Bourne movies, as an example of a movie that introduces complexity to its characters, since I agree that there was essentially no character development at any point in any of the three movies, except for Bourne’s gradual development of something like a conscience (which seems to come from nowhere). As for movies with complex characters, I was referring here to something like Breaker Morant. My point was that nationalists, or anyone looking for ideological affirmation at the cinema, do not want that complexity.
On the plot points, I take it that you haven’t seen the second movie. The ending of Supremacy cheats a little and takes us to a scene that is actually replayed in the middle of the third movie. We never find out what happened in Moscow after Bourne’s big confrontation with the FSB agent, so the start of Ultimatum fills in part of the gap. The cops in Moscow were after him because the FSB agent had sent them after him and because he spent a fair part of the climax of Supremacy smashing into Muscovite cop cars.
September 5th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Koz
I’ll take your word for it that that line is in the movie, I don’t remember it. Which in a bigger way, is sort of the point. All the major points in the story arc are a matter of assertion, in god-awful cliches besides. Whatever that guy said, certainly we didn’t _see_ anything leading us to believe in any sort of external threat. As far as we know the world be peace love and harmony if the CIA would just stop their random assassination programs.