Comments on: I Am Beginning To Have “Clinton Fatigue” Fatigue http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/ n. the principle of good order "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:52:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Christopher B. Hayes http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6374 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:59:37 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6374 Seems that the Right using the past century as a metaphor for everything is a problem, demonizing yesteryear so they can be in power tomorrow. Just like Hitler demonizing Jews back in '33! And Obama using the media to propagandize - just like Hitler and Goebbels working the crowd back in '33! And Hillary's voice - just like Hitler back in '33! Hillary shouting "Heute Amerika, morgen die Welt!" in a Southern black accent - just like Hitler back in '33! Seems that the Right using the past century as a metaphor for everything is a problem, demonizing yesteryear so they can be in power tomorrow. Just like Hitler demonizing Jews back in ‘33!

And Obama using the media to propagandize - just like Hitler and Goebbels working the crowd back in ‘33!

And Hillary’s voice - just like Hitler back in ‘33!

Hillary shouting “Heute Amerika, morgen die Welt!” in a Southern black accent -
just like Hitler back in ‘33!

]]> by: Maximos http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6372 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:43:06 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6372 Well, I'd say that it alternates between the soporific and the shrill, occasionally detouring into the farcical, as when she attempts a bad Southern accent and tries emulate the diction and cadence of a strong black woman. Well, I’d say that it alternates between the soporific and the shrill, occasionally detouring into the farcical, as when she attempts a bad Southern accent and tries emulate the diction and cadence of a strong black woman.

]]> by: Grumpy Old Man http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6367 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:17:55 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6367 The "communist" label hardly applies, but her delivery is soporific in a Politburo kind of way. That's why the Apple commercial parody was so effective. If she wins, national abulia cannot be far behind. The “communist” label hardly applies, but her delivery is soporific in a Politburo kind of way.

That’s why the Apple commercial parody was so effective.

If she wins, national abulia cannot be far behind.

]]> by: Maximos http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6364 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:33:25 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6364 The slogan is not unclever at all; but what I find dismaying about it is that it is reflective of a tendency on the right to live in the remains of past conflicts, and to interpret the present by reference to a past that is truly <I>past</I>. Not to mention the tendency some exhibit of ascribing to policies they happen not to like origins in truly horrific systems of thought and governance. Hillary's National Health Service would be truly bad policy, but it's not actually <I>communist</I>.... The slogan is not unclever at all; but what I find dismaying about it is that it is reflective of a tendency on the right to live in the remains of past conflicts, and to interpret the present by reference to a past that is truly past. Not to mention the tendency some exhibit of ascribing to policies they happen not to like origins in truly horrific systems of thought and governance. Hillary’s National Health Service would be truly bad policy, but it’s not actually communist….

]]> by: Christopher B. Hayes http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6362 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:37:09 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6362 Bill's political thinking always seemed like a filtered version of Hillary's to me, so "Re-defeat communism" seems an apt slogan, but one that she's likely to side-step if she can remain hawkish enough to placate the enormous blood-lust that many of the right are afflicted with. Bill’s political thinking always seemed like a filtered version of Hillary’s to me, so “Re-defeat communism” seems an apt slogan, but one that she’s likely to side-step if she can remain hawkish enough to placate the enormous blood-lust that many of the right are afflicted with.

]]> by: Christopher B. Hayes http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6360 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:53:49 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6360 Sadly, it sounds like Bernstein's books is going to be a great promo for Clinton, with just enough "oh my, I didn't know that about her!" to sound legit and give her a chance to "bare her soul before the public" (to keep with current fads). At least that's my take on how Random House spins the thing. Who knows, maybe the promos for the book are just trying to cash in on Clinton's adoring fan base, but the books really full of dirt. With all Bernstein's talk about responsibility in the media, I'll be disappointed if it's just drumming up votes for Hillary. Maybe Jeb Bush can send the country into ataxia by changing his name to Jeb Clinton, or maybe Jebama Clinton Sadly, it sounds like Bernstein’s books is going to be a great promo for Clinton, with just enough “oh my, I didn’t know that about her!” to sound legit and give her a chance to “bare her soul before the public” (to keep with current fads). At least that’s my take on how Random House spins the thing. Who knows, maybe the promos for the book are just trying to cash in on Clinton’s adoring fan base, but the books really full of dirt. With all Bernstein’s talk about responsibility in the media, I’ll be disappointed if it’s just drumming up votes for Hillary.

Maybe Jeb Bush can send the country into ataxia by changing his name to Jeb Clinton, or maybe Jebama Clinton

]]> by: Maximos http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6358 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:55:40 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6358 Besides, if there were a sort of aural dictionary which correlated terms with their expected sounds, Clinton's voice would be paired with the entry for "harridan". Her voice not only possesses that 'fingernails-on-chalkboard' quality, but completes the stereotype of the apparatchik who, when she says that it takes a village to raise a child, really means that the village is going to take your child and inculcate in him the dogma of the collective. Not that this stereotype is anything more than a warranted loathing of the woman's politics exaggerated and then transposed into a familiar key, perhaps the only key a moribund right knows how to play; but this is a reason why the popular right opposes her with the slogan, "Re-defeat communism". She just strikes a retro chord for the right, and the voice isn't helping her. Besides, if there were a sort of aural dictionary which correlated terms with their expected sounds, Clinton’s voice would be paired with the entry for “harridan”. Her voice not only possesses that ‘fingernails-on-chalkboard’ quality, but completes the stereotype of the apparatchik who, when she says that it takes a village to raise a child, really means that the village is going to take your child and inculcate in him the dogma of the collective.

Not that this stereotype is anything more than a warranted loathing of the woman’s politics exaggerated and then transposed into a familiar key, perhaps the only key a moribund right knows how to play; but this is a reason why the popular right opposes her with the slogan, “Re-defeat communism”. She just strikes a retro chord for the right, and the voice isn’t helping her.

]]> by: tedschan http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6357 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:47:17 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6357 Do you think Carl Berstein's new book will have much of an impact on her supporters? Do you think Carl Berstein’s new book will have much of an impact on her supporters?

]]> by: Grumpy Old Man http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6356 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:09:29 +0000 http://larison.org/2007/04/29/i-am-beginning-to-have-clinton-fatigue-fatigue/#comment-6356 Hillary is just so Leonid Brezhnev. Two sentences out of her mouth and I want to batter my head against the walls of my padded cell. Bill could go on at Fidelesque length with super-wonkery and bull-session type nattering, but there was no question he had a personality as well as a brain. Hillary, on the other hand, talks pure apparatchikese. Hillary is just so Leonid Brezhnev.

Two sentences out of her mouth and I want to batter my head against the walls of my padded cell.

Bill could go on at Fidelesque length with super-wonkery and bull-session type nattering, but there was no question he had a personality as well as a brain.

Hillary, on the other hand, talks pure apparatchikese.

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