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	<description>n. the principle of good order "Observe the strange inversion of all order and sense! Dignity debased; how vilely is the function of a consul prostituted!" ~The Craftsman</description>
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		<title>by: daninardmore</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6171</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Also of interest is a little book by General Smedley Butler USMC, a twice winner of the Medal of Honor, titled "War is a Racket", published first in 1935 and still available.
 It is about his career from the Spanish American War through the various interventions in the Caribbean and Central America in the nineteen teens and twenties on behalf of US corporate interests. Nothing has changed, what with Cheney's and the Bush family's connections with war profiteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also of interest is a little book by General Smedley Butler USMC, a twice winner of the Medal of Honor, titled &#8220;War is a Racket&#8221;, published first in 1935 and still available.<br />
 It is about his career from the Spanish American War through the various interventions in the Caribbean and Central America in the nineteen teens and twenties on behalf of US corporate interests. Nothing has changed, what with Cheney&#8217;s and the Bush family&#8217;s connections with war profiteers.
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		<title>by: JT</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6170</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's a moving interview.  Thanks for providing the link, daninardmore.  A couple days ago I was browsing in a used bookstore and found the book "War--What For?" by George R. Kirkpatrick.  It was self-published in 1910 and written from a socialist perspective.  In fact, I later learned that Kirkpatrick was the 1916 Socialist Party vice presidential nominee (the year Debs turned the top of the ticket over to Allan Benson before returning for one more run in '20).  

I don't know if Kirkpatrick was a professing Christian or not, but he analyzes the concept of war with unflinching logic and includes repeated references to the spectre of the Prince of Peace being used to sanctify carnage initiated by greedy and power-hungry men.  He also details the economic costs of the war machine in his day.  This was seven years before the country was dragged into the great European bloodletting by the insufferable Woodrow Wilson.  

Kirkpatrick's book is interesting but it didn't sufficiently awaken the consciousness of the working class.  Many soon became cannon fodder for the latest-and-greatest destructive "necessity."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a moving interview.  Thanks for providing the link, daninardmore.  A couple days ago I was browsing in a used bookstore and found the book &#8220;War&#8211;What For?&#8221; by George R. Kirkpatrick.  It was self-published in 1910 and written from a socialist perspective.  In fact, I later learned that Kirkpatrick was the 1916 Socialist Party vice presidential nominee (the year Debs turned the top of the ticket over to Allan Benson before returning for one more run in &#8216;20).  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if Kirkpatrick was a professing Christian or not, but he analyzes the concept of war with unflinching logic and includes repeated references to the spectre of the Prince of Peace being used to sanctify carnage initiated by greedy and power-hungry men.  He also details the economic costs of the war machine in his day.  This was seven years before the country was dragged into the great European bloodletting by the insufferable Woodrow Wilson.  </p>
<p>Kirkpatrick&#8217;s book is interesting but it didn&#8217;t sufficiently awaken the consciousness of the working class.  Many soon became cannon fodder for the latest-and-greatest destructive &#8220;necessity.&#8221;
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		<title>by: daninardmore</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6168</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Not relevant to this post in particular, I just have to bring everyone's attention to this, regarding the morality of war, from a man who should know:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mccarthy5.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not relevant to this post in particular, I just have to bring everyone&#8217;s attention to this, regarding the morality of war, from a man who should know:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mccarthy5.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/mccarthy5.html</a>
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		<title>by: Daniel Larison</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6166</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Macaulay isn't a bad historian to be compared to, Whig or not.  My guess is that this remark was aimed at positivism rather than Macaulay's confident opinions, but I suppose it could be referring to both.

I don't think that virtually everyone else is "collaborating with the enemies of liberty and justice," but that to be the kind of "active" political players who "do" things it would have been necessary for paleos to collaborate with those people who are these enemies.  Even if I could be persuaded that they are necessary, I am not temperamentally suited to the kinds of compromises that people claim they need to be able to make to "get things done."  If there is a problem with paleoconservatism (and I'm not saying there is), it *might* be that it attracts many of those people who are inclined to resist compromise as a principle in its own right and who view being uncompromising on certain things to be almost as important as the things themselves.

My thanks, daninardmore.  I suppose this series of posts this week was a bit more strident and in the "here I stand, I cannot do otherwise" mode because I was more on edge than usual (perhaps having my car towed this week added to my irritability) and more inclined to push back with great force than I might have been had this Koz written his posts at a different time.  I wouldn't have said anything substantively different, but it might have had less of the "we few, we happy few" quality to it.  

Certainly, no one blogs (or writes) without being just a bit arrogant and presumptuous.  You have to think that someone wants to read what you have to say, and you have to think that you know something or can contribute something, whatever it is, that no one else can in quite the same way.  When you begin to get an audience, however small, you feel that you are confirmed in this presumption.  When you find your positions vindicated, however grim the vindication, it adds to this sense that you "get" something that other people don't, which can be dangerous and misleading.  It may simply be accidental that you got it right, which is why everyone needs to be grounded in fidelity to eternal verities and work from the collected wisdom of our civilisation's moral and religious traditions--any one of us, on his own, is simply stabbing randomly in the dark, occasionally hitting his target and often missing.  It is only with the guidance of those traditions that he begins to see the right path illumined before him.

Indeed, I agree that Landon was not a good choice, just as Wilke was a meaningless alternative in '40.  They were the John Kerrys of their time, by which I mean that they were opponents who offered no real substantive differences to the public in terms of what they do about the most pressing questions of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macaulay isn&#8217;t a bad historian to be compared to, Whig or not.  My guess is that this remark was aimed at positivism rather than Macaulay&#8217;s confident opinions, but I suppose it could be referring to both.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that virtually everyone else is &#8220;collaborating with the enemies of liberty and justice,&#8221; but that to be the kind of &#8220;active&#8221; political players who &#8220;do&#8221; things it would have been necessary for paleos to collaborate with those people who are these enemies.  Even if I could be persuaded that they are necessary, I am not temperamentally suited to the kinds of compromises that people claim they need to be able to make to &#8220;get things done.&#8221;  If there is a problem with paleoconservatism (and I&#8217;m not saying there is), it *might* be that it attracts many of those people who are inclined to resist compromise as a principle in its own right and who view being uncompromising on certain things to be almost as important as the things themselves.</p>
<p>My thanks, daninardmore.  I suppose this series of posts this week was a bit more strident and in the &#8220;here I stand, I cannot do otherwise&#8221; mode because I was more on edge than usual (perhaps having my car towed this week added to my irritability) and more inclined to push back with great force than I might have been had this Koz written his posts at a different time.  I wouldn&#8217;t have said anything substantively different, but it might have had less of the &#8220;we few, we happy few&#8221; quality to it.  </p>
<p>Certainly, no one blogs (or writes) without being just a bit arrogant and presumptuous.  You have to think that someone wants to read what you have to say, and you have to think that you know something or can contribute something, whatever it is, that no one else can in quite the same way.  When you begin to get an audience, however small, you feel that you are confirmed in this presumption.  When you find your positions vindicated, however grim the vindication, it adds to this sense that you &#8220;get&#8221; something that other people don&#8217;t, which can be dangerous and misleading.  It may simply be accidental that you got it right, which is why everyone needs to be grounded in fidelity to eternal verities and work from the collected wisdom of our civilisation&#8217;s moral and religious traditions&#8211;any one of us, on his own, is simply stabbing randomly in the dark, occasionally hitting his target and often missing.  It is only with the guidance of those traditions that he begins to see the right path illumined before him.</p>
<p>Indeed, I agree that Landon was not a good choice, just as Wilke was a meaningless alternative in &#8216;40.  They were the John Kerrys of their time, by which I mean that they were opponents who offered no real substantive differences to the public in terms of what they do about the most pressing questions of the day.
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		<title>by: JT</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6165</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Electing Landon would have done little to improve the situation.  William Lemke would have been a better choice in '36.  Okay, maybe this proves the point of Ross' criticism that paleocons are too concerned about the past.  But if you don't understand where you've been, I'm skeptical if you understand where you're at now and where you're likely to be later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electing Landon would have done little to improve the situation.  William Lemke would have been a better choice in &#8216;36.  Okay, maybe this proves the point of Ross&#8217; criticism that paleocons are too concerned about the past.  But if you don&#8217;t understand where you&#8217;ve been, I&#8217;m skeptical if you understand where you&#8217;re at now and where you&#8217;re likely to be later.
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		<title>by: daninardmore</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6159</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I thought being "cocksure" about everything was a blogger's prerogative. And just compare the number of times Daniel has admitted being wrong about something to the number of meae culpae we have ever seen from the lapdog media pundits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought being &#8220;cocksure&#8221; about everything was a blogger&#8217;s prerogative. And just compare the number of times Daniel has admitted being wrong about something to the number of meae culpae we have ever seen from the lapdog media pundits.
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		<title>by: James Kabala</title>
		<link>http://larison.org/2007/04/12/i-ride-with-kekaumenos/#comment-6158</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know it will offend you to be compared to a Whig historian, but this series of posts reminds of the old quotation (variously attributed to Caryle, Melbourne, and other eminent early Victorians), "I wish I could be as cocksure about anything as Macaulay is about everything!"  I don't mean that completely as a criticism, either; there is something awe-inspiring about someone supremely confident that he is right and 99% of the population are not only wrong but "betraying principles and collaborating with the enemies of liberty and justice."  Maybe this blog should be re-named "Larison contra mundum" (or, more up your alley, Larison epi kosmon).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it will offend you to be compared to a Whig historian, but this series of posts reminds of the old quotation (variously attributed to Caryle, Melbourne, and other eminent early Victorians), &#8220;I wish I could be as cocksure about anything as Macaulay is about everything!&#8221;  I don&#8217;t mean that completely as a criticism, either; there is something awe-inspiring about someone supremely confident that he is right and 99% of the population are not only wrong but &#8220;betraying principles and collaborating with the enemies of liberty and justice.&#8221;  Maybe this blog should be re-named &#8220;Larison contra mundum&#8221; (or, more up your alley, Larison epi kosmon).
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