Yes, Gov. Romney is a Mormon. We are not. According to the liberal media, this is an unbridgeable gap, and evangelicals will never turn out to support a faithful Mormon like Governor Romney. As usual, the media have it wrong. And they root their error (as usual) in a fundamental misunderstanding about American evangelicals—seeing us as ignorant and intolerant simpletons who are incapable of making sophisticated political value judgments. ~Evangelicals for Mitt
A reader has alerted me to this pro-Romney site. It is worth a look to see the arguments of evangelicals who are willing to look past Romney’s Mormonism and support him based on shared policy views. For what it’s worth, I don’t think evangelicals who refuse to vote for Romney because of his Mormonism are “intolerant simpletons” incapable of making “sophisticated political value judgements.” I think these evangelicals actually believe someone’s religion really matters for the formation of his worldview and they actually prefer having a Christian, probably preferably a Christian who shares their entire faith and experience as evangelicals, as the person to represent them. This is completely understandable and even laudable. There are evangelicals for whom Mormonism is a bridge too far, and there are those for whom it is not, but the first group outnumbers the latter and, I suspect, feels much more strongly about it. In the primaries, the antis will overwhelm the pros.
Back to the quote. Perhaps it is because of their disdain for evangelicals that the liberal media have played up Romney’s Mormonism as being in conflict with evangelical voters, or perhaps it is because they enjoy pushing the “religious politics has come back to haunt the GOP” narrative, or perhaps it is just because they like to report on conflict that will generate interest in presidential election reporting in early 2007 when most people are more concerned with the NFL playoffs or paying off their Christmas bills. I don’t know the real reason why they’re talking about it.
But it probably has something to do with anecdotal evidence of anti-Mormon opposition among evangelicals and the slightly more scientific evidence that half of all evangelicals would never consider voting for a Mormon. It certainly has to do with evidence that four out of ten voters from the general population would likewise not even consider it. Maybe the other approximately half of evangelicals will enthusiastically vote for him and “evangelicals for Mitt” will not have the odd, out-of-place sound to it that “hawks for Kucinich” or “pacifists for Gingrich” have. Even so, losing half of the evangelical vote before he was even officially in the race on the Mormon issue alone is a political death blow to an avowedly social conservative candidate.
Let’s go back to those Rasmussen numbers and look at how they break down. Who are these anti-Mormon voters? It turns out that they are from pretty much every possible group. Some are more likely to refuse consideration of such a vote, but there are high levels (30%+)of resistance across the board. Remember that this is a straight-up yes or no question: would you ever consider voting for a Mormon for President? Those opposed are not leaving Romney any room with which he can work: they will never consider it.
43% of Catholics say they would never consider voting for a Mormon, and 36% of Protestants (classified separately from evangelicals) and 53% of evangelicals say the same. That’s a lot of people with religious affiliations who say, “No, thank you” when presented with a Mormon presidential candidate. That’s without asking any other questions of him. What about his policy views, his “values”? These are apparently irrelevant.
Opposition intensifies in direct proportion to a voter’s frequency of religious attendance: only 37% of those who rarely or never attend services are unwilling, 44% of weekly attendees are unwilling to consider such a vote and 59% of people who attend services more than once a week are unwilling. This makes sense. The more practically religious you are, the more a candidate’s religious identity will probably matter to you. But that doesn’t get away from the startling fact that over a third of people who almost never go into a church will never vote for a Mormon presidential candidate. Against such huge numbers and strong opposition no candidate can hope to prevail. There is not enough time, even if he had the luxury of trying, to “educate” the voters on what it means to be Mormon. This education is almost certainly needed, if only to root out egregious and obvious errors of fact that have lodged in the public consciousness, but the middle of a presidential campaign is neither the time nor the place for it. In popular culture (see Big Love or Entourage), mainstream Mormonism is still associated, incorrectly, with polygamy, which has not been helped by Romney hamming it up with jokes about marriage being between “a man and a woman…and a woman and a woman.” Yes, that’s very droll, Mitt, but it only works if everyone knows that Mormons no longer practice polygamy. It would not be a surprise to me if a great many people still don’t know that or if they easily confuse Mormon splinter groups with the main LDS church. In any case, Romney is banking on the public being relatively well-informed about the internal affairs of a relatively obscure religious group with which most people have no dealings, and this is a losing bet.
The chances of a Mormon candidate are worse among women than among just about any other group: 47% would not consider voting for one for President, while only 38% of men would not. Party affiliation does seem to make some significant difference. Pat yourselves on the backs, Republicans–you are marginally more accepting of Mormon presidential candidates than much of the rest of America! Among Republicans, 42% would consider voting for a Mormon, 40% wouldn’t. Among Democrats, opposition is greater (32% willing vs. 51% unwilling). Of the three options, those not affiliated with either are least likely to be opposed to considering a vote for a Mormon (42/33).
Ideology does not seem to matter in determining a refusal to support a Mormon candidate. Each group (conservative, moderate, liberal) has equally high levels of refusal to consider such a vote (43, 44, 41% respectively). Liberals are slightly more likely (44%) to consider voting for a Mormon, and conservatives the next most likely (39%). Curiously enough, “moderates” are the least willing (34%). People of indeterminate ideology (”not sure”) are just as opposed (43%) and even less willing to consider voting for a Mormon (25%). The conservative numbers seem to mirror the overall national results of 38% willing to consider a vote and 43% unwilling. Obviously, if Romney loses almost half of conservatives from the beginning before he even opens his mouth, he has no realistic chance in the primaries. To have a fighting chance, he would have to get every single vote of those who are open to voting for a Mormon, and he simply isn’t going to get all those votes.
How important a candidate’s faith is to voters heavily determines opposition. Among those who say it is “very important,” opposition is intense (59%), and among those who say it is “somewhat important” opposition is still considerable (38%). Almost inexplicably, though, among those for whom a candidate’s faith is “not very” or “not at all important” there are still large numbers who would never consider such a vote (31 and 30% respectively). There is clearly not just an intense religious opposition to a Mormon presidential candidate, but what seems to be a generalised, nationwide, cross-cutting cultural hostility that can be found in virtually every group of people in America.
If Mitt Romney could somehow get himself elected President in the midst of this, he would have to be considered one of the great political and campaigning geniuses of the last century. No offense to Gov. Romney, but however good he is he isn’t that good of a campaigner. I don’t think someone with the political skills of Clinton and Reagan combined could pull this off. What he is trying to do is, for all intents and purposes, impossible. At best he might hope for a few decent second-place finishes in a few places and shoot for the VP slot, but even in that case his Mormonism seems likely to be a weight that will drag any GOP ticket down (after all, if all these people won’t vote for a Mormon for President, why would they vote for a Mormon to be first in line for the Presidency?).
With all of this in mind, there is something that needs to be said clearly and as often as necessary to make the point: Romney’s religion is a problem not just for the Jacob Weisbergs and evangelicals out there, but it is more or less a problem to some large degree for every kind of non-Mormon American out there. It roughly splits the country down the middle between those who would never even consider the possibility of a Mormon President and those who are open to that possibility. It would be worth inquiring how it is that Mormons can be distrusted this much by such a wide variety of people. Christians are obviously more likely to view Mormonism poorly for religious reasons, and secularists are apt to view it at least as poorly as they view other religions, but how exactly does anti-Mormonism become such a general phenomenon such that at least one-third of every group into which they broke down this polling information was firmly opposed to a Mormon President? Is it mainly a product of Christian opposition to Mormon theological errors? Is it leftover disdain for past polygamous practices being transferred to the modern church?
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January 17th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Glaivester1
What needs to be considered here is the fact that unlike Catholics, Jews, or even Muslims, Mormons are not monotheists. Their actual religious views are very, very different from those of the mainstream religions. I have a feeling that a lot of the people who say that they would vote for a Mormon probably would not if they actually knew what Mormons believe.
January 18th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Robert Duquette
You mean there’s a group that would get less support for elected office than atheists? Only 50% of Americans would not vote for an atheist.
I’d vote for him. You religious people take your beliefs way too seriously. While he was railing against Keith Ellison’s choice of the Koran to take his oath of office on, he made the point that people should vote for the person and not the faith. It’s good advice. Evangelicals voted for Jimmy Carter because he was one of them, and look where that got them. The particulars of a person’s faith says very little about his morals or character. If you want to judge morals and character, then judge morals and character.
January 18th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Robert Duquette
I left out that it was Dennis Prager who gave the advice about voting for the man, not the faith.
January 18th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
Daniel Larison
According to Rasmussen, the percentage of people who would not consider voting for an atheist is higher than that. This latest has it at 60% or so, which is the same as it is for a Muslim candidate. According to this same poll, 43% would not consider voting for a Mormon, which goes over 50% among some of the groups I mentioned.
I can see why it would appear that we take our beliefs too seriously, but I don’t know how one takes them any less seriously and still bothers to have them. I suppose the atheist argument is that this is one of the problems with religious belief, but it seems to me to be an unavoidable part of that belief. If there are religious voters and they think a candidate’s faith is very important, it is unavoidable that it will become a political issue. I agree that a confession of faith itself tells you little about the man, except that it tells you what it is that he believes in his heart to be divinely revealed truth, which for religious people is a rather significant aspect of his judgement. Compared to his judgement in such matters, what he thinks about health care ends up taking a very distant second place.
January 19th, 2007 at 6:05 am
Robert Duquette
But why should religious creeds take precedent over opinions on health care or national defense? The presidency is not a religious office. Doesn’t Christianity recognize that there is a difference between deference to the state and deference to God?
January 19th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Christopher Hayes
Robert -
The reason that I, as a religious person, believe that a persons religious convictions are important is this; I believe religion is more than a belief in ordinances and ceremony, though physical observances do have their place.
For some, their religion is merely a belief that saying “Lord, Lord” or participating in a ceremony will have a positive effect on their eternal salvation. For these people, there would be no problem with excluding all thought of religion from their participation in the State.
Personaly I believe that religion is to live according to a set of fixed principles. Those principles are what I’m concerned with. I believe in an Absolute Truth, as opposed to a Relative Truth. There are no “exceptions” to these rules, only overriding or subordinate rules. Different religions, sects and people have varying views on what those Absolute Truths are. Knowing what Truths, or principles, a person holds to can be a key to knowing how that person is likely to act and think. If action doesn’t arise from thought, then where does it come from?
An example of how I see these principles in action would be abortion. I believe that each person consists of the physical body we can see, and a spirit which can’t be seen by our physical eyes. This belief leads me to the thinking that a fetus is a person, and I believe that abortion is taking the life of that person. Does the mother have a right to choose? Yes. But I see the choice as extending past whether or not she’ll carry a child to full term. The choice is whether or not to allow another person to live. The principles I hold to be true lead me to think this. Now, where I differ from some is my belief in what to do in the case of rape. The woman has not invited the child into her life, so at that point I believe she should be able to choose if she’ll share herself with that child. This would be a superseding principle. Farther still, though, while that woman would have justice on her side if she chose to end the life of the child, the higher principle of mercy could be extended, allowing the child to live. So, in summary, I believe there is a rule that should not be broken (Thou Shalt Not Kill), but that this rule can be justifiably overridden by other principle.
January 19th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Christopher Hayes
Robert - thinking about it, I could be more succinct.
For many religious people, to give their best service to the State would be to apply things they’ve learned in their religious activities and studies, the same way they would try and apply things they’ve learned in their university studies. Truth is truth, no matter where you find it. If I believe someone else’s understanding of truth to be false, (or non-existent), I wouldn’t vote for that person, because I can’t trust that they’ll act in a way I see fit.
January 20th, 2007 at 9:49 am
Robert Duquette
Christopher
Yes, but there are different levels of truth. Are metaphysical truths so important to the political process that they trump more practical, worldly truths, like that free markets produce more prosperity for more people than state controlled markets, or that a strong military posture enables better diplomatic solutions than a weak posture? I don’t see how Romney’s view of metaphysical truth should color any of his views of the truths that are critical to governing the nation. You want to believe that the latter is derivative of the former, but I’ve never seen a connection between the two. We’ve had an evangelical president who was a liberal defeatist (Carter) and one who has been a conservative expansionist (Bush). Both hold to the same metaphysical truths.
January 21st, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Christopher Hayes
Robert-
I agree completely that not all truths are equal. While some could be described as metaphysical, there are other principles taught within scripture that are practical, and more readily applicable to day to day situations at any level.
If you want to know which practical principles Romney could be turning to for practical advice, I’d recommend reading the books he considers scripture. Joseph Smith called the Book of Mormon the “most correct book on earth” - he said it at a time that spellings and punctuation weren’t as formalized as today, so I assume he was referring to content. That content includes lots of politics, intra- and inter-national. It also includes numerous military advices. The Doctrine & Covenants, another book of Mormon scripture, contains numerous instructions on how to handle general welfare (item of note - the “Mormon” ideal economy is neither in the direction of capitalism OR socialism; it is quite different than either).
If Romney claims any integrity regarding his professed beliefs, I would think he would at the least not operate in direct contradiction to these scriptural precedents.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Howard J. Harrison
The discussion thread is long cold at the time of this writing. It happens to come new to me today, so I would comment.
Rightly or wrongly, Americans today share a sense that overt religious expression in public discourse is, well, arch. A politician is expected to hold his religious beliefs in reserve, not to flaunt them indiscriminately in the open. After all, it is hardly because of religious bigotry that no Roman Catholic politician in the U.S. ever begins a speech by crossing himself and invoking the witness of the Holy Trinity; it is because of a feeling—again, right or wrong—that such a speech just is not the place for that form of expression.
I am not sure, Daniel, that you allow sufficiently for the possibility that Mr. Romney were perfectly confident in his Mormonism but understood and respected the aforementioned archness factor. It has been explained to me (as maybe also to you) that leaders of Mormon parishes never wear beards even though Brigham Young famously wore one. Is this because Mormon parish leaders either revere or deprecate Mr. Young’s beard? Unlikely. More likely it is because the beard would in a contemporary cultural context pose an unnecessary distraction when seen on the leader’s face. I bet the leaders grow beards when they go hunting or camping, just like the rest of us.
Now, you might object that beards were peripheral and religious doctrines, central; and I would agree. I would say however that the objection misses the point. The point is that there is a season for all things, and that Mr. Romney might feel that a presidential campaign were not the season for a discussion of Mormon theology.
I would offer one further observation in Mr. Romney’s defense, in the form of a hypothetical. What would happen if Mr. Romney allowed himself to be drawn out on Mormon doctrine and, say, health care, in the same campaign? What is to stop listeners from conflating Mr. Romney’s views on the two? As unfamiliar as the details of Mormon theology are to most Americans (including me), we might take Mr. Romney’s statements on the one to imply something unwarranted about the other. This is not like eastern Orthdoxy, whose doctrines in slightly modified forms are already broadly familiar to many or most Republican primary voters. Mr. Romney might not feel free to risk putting his church in an embarrassing position by speaking extra cathedra on her religion—not when he speaks from such a prominent pulpit as that of a U.S. presidential campaign. Add to that obvious sense that talking about the odder-seeming points of Mormon doctrine probably does not help Mr. Romney politically, and Mr. Romney’s reticence must seem natural and unsurprising.
Your carefully reasoned argument is well appreciated. I find much in it to agree with and more than a little in it to learn from. Keep up the good work.